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		<title>By: Tracy Chapman</title>
		<link>http://www.pdxtc.com/wpblog/seo/local-policy-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-116747</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m absolutely with you Scott.  My friend&#039;s who paint, do remodeling work, provide interior design services, consult on search marketing like you and I do, the come to your home pet sitters, auto-detailers, home health workers and many more DO work and service people in the area - just not at a consistent brick and mortar location.  We all still need a way to reach customers and those customers are looking for us!!  If Google and other sites listing local businesses (Yelp, CitySearch, etc) want to serve their audiences, they need to find a way to list businesses like ours.  I am using my home address and so far have been able to keep Google Places but I certainly don&#039;t want people showing up at my front door.  

Thanks for publishing this article - it is something that needs to be fixed.
Tracy :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m absolutely with you Scott.  My friend&#8217;s who paint, do remodeling work, provide interior design services, consult on search marketing like you and I do, the come to your home pet sitters, auto-detailers, home health workers and many more DO work and service people in the area &#8211; just not at a consistent brick and mortar location.  We all still need a way to reach customers and those customers are looking for us!!  If Google and other sites listing local businesses (Yelp, CitySearch, etc) want to serve their audiences, they need to find a way to list businesses like ours.  I am using my home address and so far have been able to keep Google Places but I certainly don&#8217;t want people showing up at my front door.  </p>
<p>Thanks for publishing this article &#8211; it is something that needs to be fixed.<br />
Tracy <img src='http://www.pdxtc.com/wpblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Mikkel - I agree on the IP stuff too - Remember when AOL users were being shown Virginia local businesses for their results because &quot;that&#039;s where the IP Address is from!&quot; ?   Does that still happen? (or does anyone still use AOL? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mikkel &#8211; I agree on the IP stuff too &#8211; Remember when AOL users were being shown Virginia local businesses for their results because &#8220;that&#8217;s where the IP Address is from!&#8221; ?   Does that still happen? (or does anyone still use AOL? <img src='http://www.pdxtc.com/wpblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cottam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Cottam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post Scott!  100% agree.  I&#039;ve had a number of clients who fit this model, either working out of their home office or mobile services like plumbers, carpet cleaners, etc.

Google&#039;s fixation with distance from perceived location of the searcher is totally nuts, too.  Sitting here in North Portland, Google wants to find me businesses as close to downtown as possible.  A fine strategy if you truly know the searcher&#039;s location (i.e. mobile device with GPS location info shared), but IP geolocation is really a TERRIBLE way to do this for Google Places results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Scott!  100% agree.  I&#8217;ve had a number of clients who fit this model, either working out of their home office or mobile services like plumbers, carpet cleaners, etc.</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s fixation with distance from perceived location of the searcher is totally nuts, too.  Sitting here in North Portland, Google wants to find me businesses as close to downtown as possible.  A fine strategy if you truly know the searcher&#8217;s location (i.e. mobile device with GPS location info shared), but IP geolocation is really a TERRIBLE way to do this for Google Places results.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the most offensive comment made by Google in your article is the reference to &quot;low margin businesses.&quot;

This is additional evidence that Google treats deep pockets preferentially. In this economy, I find that quite pathetic.

I&#039;ll add some more business categories to Gary&#039;s list:

Building Contractors
Carpet cleaning services
Painters
Technical Writers
Any matter of freelance workers, the number of which has multiplied since the unemployment crisis of the past few years.

Google - part of the 1%!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most offensive comment made by Google in your article is the reference to &#8220;low margin businesses.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is additional evidence that Google treats deep pockets preferentially. In this economy, I find that quite pathetic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add some more business categories to Gary&#8217;s list:</p>
<p>Building Contractors<br />
Carpet cleaning services<br />
Painters<br />
Technical Writers<br />
Any matter of freelance workers, the number of which has multiplied since the unemployment crisis of the past few years.</p>
<p>Google &#8211; part of the 1%!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well you can add Fishing Charters to that list. I design sites for fishing charters businesses and they certainly don&#039;t have a brick and mortor address. They have a dock, usually at a marina and you can not use the dock address because you can&#039;t receive a Google postcard with the confirmation pin #. Even if you asked the marina staff to watch out for a postcard for you they never do it, my clients have tried.

But here is what I think is stupid about Google Places.
I have many Charter Boat Captains that fish out of Fort Lauderdale. Some of them live in Fort Lauderdale so they just use their home address. But what happens to a Captain who fishes in Fort Lauderdale but lives in the next city over Pompano? Well you just use his home addres too, Right? But here is the problem, his site never appears for Fort Lauderdale Fishing phrases on Google Places even though his site is SEO&#039;d for everthing Fort Lauderdale. Even though the categories selected on the Places form were Fort Lauderdale. He has not one word about Pompano on his websites. But if you type in the phrase Pompano Fishing, guess what? He is number one. And nobody types in Pompano fishing. The Google Local should be for every business but apparently it&#039;s not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you can add Fishing Charters to that list. I design sites for fishing charters businesses and they certainly don&#8217;t have a brick and mortor address. They have a dock, usually at a marina and you can not use the dock address because you can&#8217;t receive a Google postcard with the confirmation pin #. Even if you asked the marina staff to watch out for a postcard for you they never do it, my clients have tried.</p>
<p>But here is what I think is stupid about Google Places.<br />
I have many Charter Boat Captains that fish out of Fort Lauderdale. Some of them live in Fort Lauderdale so they just use their home address. But what happens to a Captain who fishes in Fort Lauderdale but lives in the next city over Pompano? Well you just use his home addres too, Right? But here is the problem, his site never appears for Fort Lauderdale Fishing phrases on Google Places even though his site is SEO&#8217;d for everthing Fort Lauderdale. Even though the categories selected on the Places form were Fort Lauderdale. He has not one word about Pompano on his websites. But if you type in the phrase Pompano Fishing, guess what? He is number one. And nobody types in Pompano fishing. The Google Local should be for every business but apparently it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Peden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Peden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A useful example of Google&#039;s shortcomings!

I think Google needs to distinguish between those companies whose product or service is physically delivered and those who can deliver their product or service by mail, download, etc. 

If the service is physically delivered to the customer and the company is set up to do it then the clearly the company should have a local listing - just like the business pages in the local phone directory.

I&#039;ve noticed that Google has this fixation with locality in other areas - like Checkout. I gave up on it a few years ago after trying unsuccessfully to persuade them to allow more than one currency per merchant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A useful example of Google&#8217;s shortcomings!</p>
<p>I think Google needs to distinguish between those companies whose product or service is physically delivered and those who can deliver their product or service by mail, download, etc. </p>
<p>If the service is physically delivered to the customer and the company is set up to do it then the clearly the company should have a local listing &#8211; just like the business pages in the local phone directory.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that Google has this fixation with locality in other areas &#8211; like Checkout. I gave up on it a few years ago after trying unsuccessfully to persuade them to allow more than one currency per merchant.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like yourself I work from home , I do not have a brick and mortar. And I want customers from all over the world.

My issue with google places is at times it seems they want to pin me to my locale. Last I checked www stood for &quot;World Wide Web&quot; not &quot;Local Narrow Web&quot; limited to my physical neighborhood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like yourself I work from home , I do not have a brick and mortar. And I want customers from all over the world.</p>
<p>My issue with google places is at times it seems they want to pin me to my locale. Last I checked www stood for &#8220;World Wide Web&#8221; not &#8220;Local Narrow Web&#8221; limited to my physical neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Garry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice arty, Scott.  It&#039;s interesting to see what real-life-process you used to find your business and the factors you used to evaluate the winner.  

Picking up the phone doesn&#039;t make the business &#039;open&#039; so the hours they posted as being &#039;open&#039; were false therefore their listing is inaccurate.

With a world of tele-commuters and entrepreneurs trying to compete with low-margin businesses, we&#039;re going to see more and more businesses without a traditional brick-and-mortar location in the future, not less.  

I hope Google reconsiders their position on this matter as well.

Here are a few affected businesses that I&#039;ve come across that fall in the same category:

Wedding Planners
Contracted Plummers
Contracted Electricians
Mobile Auto Detailing
Interior Designers

so many more it would take me days to write them down...

All of the above clients/businesses have NO brick and mortar presence and yet are very much &quot;for real.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice arty, Scott.  It&#8217;s interesting to see what real-life-process you used to find your business and the factors you used to evaluate the winner.  </p>
<p>Picking up the phone doesn&#8217;t make the business &#8216;open&#8217; so the hours they posted as being &#8216;open&#8217; were false therefore their listing is inaccurate.</p>
<p>With a world of tele-commuters and entrepreneurs trying to compete with low-margin businesses, we&#8217;re going to see more and more businesses without a traditional brick-and-mortar location in the future, not less.  </p>
<p>I hope Google reconsiders their position on this matter as well.</p>
<p>Here are a few affected businesses that I&#8217;ve come across that fall in the same category:</p>
<p>Wedding Planners<br />
Contracted Plummers<br />
Contracted Electricians<br />
Mobile Auto Detailing<br />
Interior Designers</p>
<p>so many more it would take me days to write them down&#8230;</p>
<p>All of the above clients/businesses have NO brick and mortar presence and yet are very much &#8220;for real.&#8221;</p>
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